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Pravit -

I have often noticed "在了" used when I thought just "在" alone would be fine. What gives?



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xiaocai -

Any examples?










skylee -

I guess it appears as 不在了 (does not exist any more) instead of 在了, right? Like -

>我爸爸不在了。

>誒，那本書剛剛還在桌子上，現在怎麽不在了?










zhwj -

Something like this, perhaps:
国企改革的最大缺憾是把职工放在了一边
他们的心停在了东经92.2度
or "吃在了肚子里" ?










Pravit -

Yeah, like in zhwj's examples!

more examples:

县委书记王炳荣的工作活动定格在了4月13日下午:....

2006年6月1日，由中宣部、国家安全生产监督管理总局等部门共同举办的“安�
��生产万里行活动”，第一站就选在了贵州。










HashiriKata -

The 在 here is the regular preposition 在, and the 了 that follows it is also the regular
aspect 了. However, it's improtant to note that the 了 you see here is modifying the verb
preceeding 在(Think "verb+在" as one grammatical unit, and 了 is modifying the unit).

BTW, I came across this title of a novel: 我把你弄丢在了心里.
Can someone please confirm that it means something like: I've lost you (somewhere) in my heart ?










skylee -

Weird. For the examples quoted in #4-#6 I would put 了 before 在 or at the end of the sentence.
But then maybe it is just me.










Pravit -

HashiriKata: I understood that the sentences were in past tense(了) and that 在 was referring to
something after it, but I don't understand why this is grammatically correct. I've never seen
anything like this in my textbooks, but it seems quite common, esp. on some news sites. Like
skylee said, why not just put 了 at the end of the sentence or before 在? It sounds quite
awkward to me to have "在了".










Pravit -

Anyone else have any comments on this usage? It's really weird.










Quest -

The only awkward sentence to me is:
我把你弄丢在了心里.

The other examples seem fine to me. 在 is treated as part of the verb.

Others:
他喜欢上了猫。
他攻下了城。
墙纸贴在了墙上。












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